Tension. Suspension. Redemption

Our new episode is up. We’re thrilled to be joined by Professor Sarah Joseph, Director of the Castan Centre for Human Rights Law, Monash University and Bulldogs AFLW premiership star & obstetrician Dr Tiarna Ernst. We take an in-depth look at the big talking point of the week: when things go wrong in the commentary box. 

NB: there’s some sensitive content this week.

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One of Sarah Joseph’s favourite things to do is to take photos in the style of U2 album covers. Of course we said “hell yeahhhhh” and so did Tiarna Ernst. 

We give you the cover for our new album “11:20”. 🕰📷 We were a bit more serious on the pod.

One of the things we discussed this week is the tension and discomfort that often accompanies attempts to call out inappropriate behaviour and action. 

Kate raised the current debate about 'civility' and reminded us that often calls for civility are really an attempt to shut down discussion and to slow down change. She reminded us of Martin Luther King's letter from Birmingham Jail in which he criticised those who prefer "a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice."

Read here in VOX.