Selling the Dream

We talk to Brisbane Lions Women’s CEO Breeanna Brock and hear from past winners of the Football Woman of the Year Award, Bec Goddard, Debbie Lee, Jan Cooper and Daisy Pearce.

Tension. Suspension. Redemption

Our new episode is up. We’re thrilled to be joined by Professor Sarah Joseph, Director of the Castan Centre for Human Rights Law, Monash University and Bulldogs AFLW premiership star & obstetrician Dr Tiarna Ernst. We take an in-depth look at the big talking point of the week: when things go wrong in the commentary box. 

NB: there’s some sensitive content this week.

New episode available now via the ABC Listen App or your favourite podcast platform. Listen on iTunes.


One of Sarah Joseph’s favourite things to do is to take photos in the style of U2 album covers. Of course we said “hell yeahhhhh” and so did Tiarna Ernst. 

We give you the cover for our new album “11:20”. 🕰📷 We were a bit more serious on the pod.

One of the things we discussed this week is the tension and discomfort that often accompanies attempts to call out inappropriate behaviour and action. 

Kate raised the current debate about 'civility' and reminded us that often calls for civility are really an attempt to shut down discussion and to slow down change. She reminded us of Martin Luther King's letter from Birmingham Jail in which he criticised those who prefer "a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice."

Read here in VOX.

Outer Sanctum Live

A live recording of the Outer Sanctum podcast from the MTC featuring special guest Wil Anderson (and more!). Warning: does contain coarse language!


We had so much fun. Thanks to all those who came.


If the Shoe Fits

We look at the link between language, inequality and violence, and unpack diversity in coaching. 

Special guests are Laura Youngson and Ben Sandhu from Ida Sports who are creating gender equality from the ground up. Literally.

The article we mentioned on Indigenous coaches is here.

Here's the link to the IDA SPORTS campaign:

You can find them on all the socials including InstagramTwitterFacebook and LinkedIn

For live results and more on the 2018 AFL NATIONAL INCLUSION CARNIVAL

Off the Fence

Is football sport or entertainment? We discuss player welfare, changes to the AFLW fixture, and Community Cup with Rohan Brooks and Rory Burnside.

For more info on the cup coming to you, visit the Community Cup website.

Reclink Community Cup National Dates 2018:

Melbourne:  Sunday 24 June @ Victoria Park, Abbotsford
Brisbane:  Sunday 29 July @ Hickey Park, Stafford
Hobart:  Sunday 5 August @ Queenborough Oval, Sandy Bay
Adelaide:  Sunday 12 August @ Coopers Stadium, Norwood
Sydney:  Sunday 19 August @ Henson Park, Marrickville
Fremantle:  Sunday 9 September @ Fremantle Oval, Fremantle
Canberra:  announcement coming soon

More about the band Rudely Interrupted!




Take it to the place

We talk football in the pike position, Mr P roadshow and Floss Lyon. Special guest: Michelle Redfern from Williamstown FC. Tiger Tess Armstrong, ABC Grandstand producer and sports presenter, is a Sanctumer for a day

Paging Dr Google

We talk about taking risks, taking a knee and the Sir Doug Nicholls Round. Robert Young chats with Emma about designing the Tiger’s Indigenous jumper. And what on earth does Tina Fey have to do with football?

Your club's Indigenous jumper!

Read here about the SBS article on being a good Indigenous ally.

We spoke about Malcolm Gladwell's podcast and the latest episode, Burden of Proof.

More here about the US and NFL kneeling 'bans'.

With Opposite Foots

We look at AFLW expansion, women in sport, and vulnerability. Special guests Sam Cooney and Kirby Fenwick. 


A collection of non-fiction pieces from more than 20 contributors that explores women’s range of experiences with sport and sporting culture in Australia.

Focusing on a critically under-represented part of Australian culture—specifically the myriad ways non-male   participants    negotiate the traditionally male spectacle of athleticism—this collection interrogates the way sporting bodies and achievements are portrayed in Australian media and culture.

We spoke about vulnerability. Listen to this amazing TED talk by Brené Brown here.

Read this article about vulnerability became sport's winning weapon by Konrad Marshall.

Event at The Wheeler Centre
featuring a discussion between Ellen van Neerven,
Nicole Hayes and Kate Doak
June 5th, 6:15pm

Here If You Need

Mea Culpa corner, power and privilege, and gender pathways with special guest Sanctumer, Australia Diamonds coach, Lisa Alexander.

Today we talked about the The Victorian Equal Opportunity and Human Rights Commission Guidelines: Trans and gender diverse inclusion in sport > Complying with the Equal Opportunity Act 2010

Danielle Warby has this up on her blog: Welcome trans, gender diverse and intersex members to your sports club that is worth reading.

Nicole mentioned these articles:

Junot Diaz story.

Mary Karr (on David Foster Wallace)

Jay Asher (Thirteen Reasons Why) and James Dashner (Maze Runner) and claims against them.

And these claims too.

Nobel Prize of Literature canceled.





The Losing of Wisdom

We look at how the AFLW lost the inaugural Premiership coach, we talk injuries, comebacks and... Is Canada in the Commonwealth?

Special guests, @AdrianBeckBooks (Adrian Beck) and @ShivaunPlozza talking about Speccy-tacular AFL Stories. @PenguinBooksAus @PenguinKidsAus

SPECCY-TACULAR AFL STORIES is a collection of AFL-themed short stories written by some of Australia’s sportiest children’s authors, including:

Michael Wagner (Why I Love Footy and Maxx Rumble series)
Tony Wilson (The Selwood Boys series)
Nicole Hayes (Footy Girl's Guide to the Stars Of 2017 and The Whole of My World)
Adrian Beck (Kick it to Nick series with Shane Crawford)
Michael Panckridge (Big Bash League series)
Sherryl Clark (Ellyse Perry series)
Patrick Loughlin (Billy Slater, Glenn Maxwell and Football High series)
Meredith Costain (Dance Academy series)
Shivaun Plozza (Frankie and Tin Heart)
David Lawrence (Fox Swift and Ball Stars series)
George Ivanoff (You Choose series)

Somebody Bring Me Some Footy

We talk biting, gambling, statistics and "The Melissa Etheridge Experience", chatting with the rockstar herself. We talk to her about her newfound love of AFL & sport’s power to connect, plus we chat to Debbie Lee &  Agela Pippos about the #AFLW end of season party to end all parties. 

You can read Nicole Hayes' Guardian article here.

Kate mentioned the AFL Annual Report. 


We talk old fashioned footy, maintaining perspective, and the VFLW memo, with guest Sanctumer Shelley Ware. Special guest, VFLW coach Patrick Hill.

State of the W

Season wrap of the AFLW and where to next. 

Katie’s in court, and (some very bad) singing. 

Special guest Chyloe Kurdas!

Drama and polygamy

Time changes, game changers and ins and outs. Special guests Hester and Ben Brown!

AFLW Grand Final

Entry to the game is free, with the match to begin at 12.35pm AEDT.

Gates open at 11.00am AEDT. Priority access will be given to AFLW Dogs and Lions members before the general public will be allowed in from 11.30am AEDT.

Missy Higgins will be singing!

The Final Countdown

This week: Injuries: both structural and maths related. And why one size fits all football is not the answer. 

Featuring an interview with Bridie O’Donnell, former cycling champion and Head, Office for Women in Sport & Recreation #OWSR.

We mentioned Wellbeing not Winning who focus on  remote Indigenous identity and organised sport. 

The report by the House Standing Committee on Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Affairs: On Monday 24 June 2013, the House of Representatives Standing Committee on Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Affairs tabled its report on the inquiry into the contribution of sport to Indigenous wellbeing and mentoring entitled Sport - More Than Just A Game.

More info on  the Inquiry into matters relating to the establishment of an Australian Football League team for Tasmania here.

From AFL threatens ASADA split if key documents in Essendon drugs saga are made public.

From Foxsports: Hawthorn president Jeff Kennett blasts AFL’s push into China, India.

The White Line

Respect, responsibility, remorse, and redemption. Martin Flanagan talks about his new book, A Wink From the Universe and we celebrate our third year podiversary!

Mr P

Records, results and revenue. And a look at grassroots footy.

For our new episode, we headed down to the headquarters of the @footyefl to chat to Phil Murton @philmurton, CEO of the Eastern Football League about what’s happening in grassroots footy. You can get the episode now, via the ABC Listen app, or through your favourite podcast platform. Or listen here. Enjoy.