When Podcasts Write Themselves

"When Podcasts Write Themselves"

There was controversy everywhere we looked this week: on the field, on banners and on the football shows. We discuss it all with Haylea Cooney, who plays for Caroline Springs and is married to a Brownlow medalist, and Mary Konstantopoulos from the NRL podcast Ladies Who League.

Available via the ABC Radio App and your favourite podcast platform.


#OuterSanctum #LadiesWhoLeague #AFL #AFLW #AFLM

One Jumper, Six Headholes: Felice Arena and Miffy Farquarson

One Jumper, Six Headholes This week at the Outer Sanctum it’s all things literary as we discuss footy books old and new - the good, the bad, and the ugly. We ask children’s book expert Miffy Farquarson about how they might engage reluctant readers, and we meet author of the bestselling Specky Magee series, Felice Arena. All in a week that saw the first female CEO appointed to an AFL Club, the launch of a new women’s team, and the prelude to Round 1 of the VFLW. Also, there’s a really big jumper with our names on it. And six headholes.

Jax Jacki Brown and Phil Cleary

This week we discuss good omens and bad omens, as well as the end of the world as we know it. 

We unpack the commentary around language and responsibility in the wake of incidents of racial and ableist abuse with disability activist Jax Jacki Brown, and speak with Phil Cleary about his decades-long campaign to end violence against women.

We debate the merits of Wayne Carey being elevated to Legend status in the AFL Hall of Fame and round off with a tribute to the greatest of Danihers, Edna, care of the brilliant Libbi Gorr.

Third Man Up...

This week on the Outer Sanctum we discuss celebration and deflation, whipping boys and tears.

We look at emotion in sport, Good Friday’s good footy, chat with former Hawk, Eagle and Swan - Matt Spangher - about changing clubs and life after football, and close with a tribute to the glorious Eddie Betts.

Don't Be An A**hole

This week we look at winners and losers, banners and schadenfreude. We discuss racism and Showdowns, and seek advice from academic, Dr Sean Gorman on where to from here. Finally we re-visit Colin Kapaernick's decision to 'take the knee', and the fallout post season. 

Available via the ABC Radio App and your favourite podcast platform 

#podcast #AFLM #AFLW #AFL #OuterSanctum

Alicia Koschitzke, Joseph La Posta and more...

This week, a new segment… “Mea Culpa Corner” starring Lucy and Kate.  Head injuries and concussion dominate the discussion.  Alicia Koschitzke, wife of former Saint, Justin, on the role of partners and family. Plus, Dermott Brereton’s troubling comments about the AFLW and the merits of a twilight grand final.  All this and Joseph La Posta from the upcoming National Diversity Championship.

Dennis Armfield, the AFLW wrap up & more footy!

We're thrilled to be the ABC!

This week we speak to Dennis Armfield. Drafted to the Carlton football club in 2007, Dennis Armfield was a latecomer to the AFL. Commencing his playing career in 2008, at the age of 21, he has now played 140 games for Carlton. In 2017 he was appointed to the club's leadership group. Off the field, Dennis is involved in a number of social causes. He is a passionate advocate for victims of family violence, and involved in Carlton's Respect campaign. He is also an ambassador for Odyssey House - a drug and alcohol rehabilitation facility in Melbourne. For his work with Odyssey House, he was awarded the Jim Stynes Community Leadership Award in 2015. Dennis also studies podiatry at LaTrobe University, and in 2017 was a skills coach for Carlton's inaugural AFL women's team.

We also talk about the AFLW and the incredible Grand Final. 

Libby Birch, Kirby Bentley, Bec Goddard, Josh Vanderloo & AFLW final!

This week on The Outer Sanctum we celebrate the AFLW with players Libby Birch and Kirby Bentley. We review the season with Josh Vanderloo from the AFL. While Adelaide coach Bec Goddard gives us some rare and hilarious insights and joins the girls for coaches karaoke. And we say a huge thank you to The Age for having us for AFLW!

Lauren Ariel and Tanya Hosch

This week we speak with Carlton Captain Lauren Arnell as well as Tanya Hosch the general manager of inclusion and social policy at the AFL. We also discuss crime and punishment regarding club sanctions and we announce our competition winners.

Ro Allen, Ruby Demons and Mardi Gras...

This week we chat inclusion and diversity with Victoria's Commissioner for Gender and Sexuality, Ro Allen.  We also speak to the LGBTQI friendly supporter group, the Ruby Demons, and bring you stories from the AFLW float at the Sydney Mardi Gras.  

Bec Goddard and Matt Finnis

Episode 4 of The Outer Sanctum is here! This week we catch up with Adelaide coach Bec Goddard, who reveals a surprising reason why her playing group are so cohesive. We also chat to St Kilda CEO Matt Finnis about his club's commitment to equality, diversity and inclusion.

Angela Pippos and Bridget Barker

This week we speak to broadcaster, Adelaide Crows devotee and author of the brand new book, Breaking the Mould and Bridget Barker, Manager of Diversity and Inclusion at North Melbourne and coach of the Western Jets Youth Girls team (and all round legend)...

Season 2 Podcast #2 Michelle Cowan and Sal Rees

On this week's episode we share our favourite moments from the opening round of the ALFW. We hear from some fans and we talk to Sal Rees, who was a pioneer for women in football. We chat in a car with Mish Cowan, coach of the Fremantle Dockers and all round superstar. #aflw #wearehere

Season 2 Podcast #1: Daisy Pearce and Bill Birnbauer

Daisy Pearce is the captain of Melbourne's AFL Women's team and will write columns for Fairfax Media throughout 2017. Daisy Pearce is an Australian rules footballer who is the captain of the Melbourne Football Clubwomen's team in the Australian Football League (AFL) exhibition matches and Darebin Falcons in the Victorian Women's Football League (VWFL). In 2007, she was named in the VWFL All-Australian team. Daisy has been hailed a legend.

We speak to her about what the season will look like and who to watch out for.

Kate spoke to Bill Birnbauer was a senior reporter and editor at The Age, The Sunday Age and The Herald between 1975 and 2008. He left Fairfax in late 2008 and was appointed Senior Lecturer in journalism at Monash University in the same year. At Fairfax, he had several senior reporting roles and was The Age’s Chief of Staff, News Editor, Night Editor and Associate Editor. He is a member of the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists. 

Podcast #30: The Year in Review and thanks

Our first season of this podcast involved the help of some wonderful people.  We want to take this opportunity to thank:

  • Camilla for your great ear and sound editing

  • John, Damon and Jordan at EON Sports Radio for taking the Outer in (plus big thanks to Lee and the barista team!)

  • Bendigo Bank Clifton Hill/ Nth Fitzroy who stepped in with some financial assistance 

  • Bridget Barker and the Huddle/ MUWFC team for hosting our Kick & Coffee and Sue Osborne for capturing the event brilliantly

  • All our incredible guests who made themselves available to unaccredited, second tier media with such generosity.

  • Above all, thank you to you, our listeners. We are six women who for decades have been looking for our place in football and finally just made one ourselves. It seems thousands of you were looking for the very same spot, so we will meet you back there again in February 2017.  

Podcast #29: Melissa Hickey and Katie Brennan

We caught up with Melissa and Katie the day after their attendance at the Brownlow. We had a chat about attending football's big night as footballers and what that means to them and a new generation of girls.  We also heard about what they will be up to in the off-season, and it isn't putting their feet up.  

Ahead of the Grand Final we checked in with two special fans. Erin Riley, writer and sports commentator, filled us in on the mood in Sydney and the special preparations she is making for Grand Final day.  We also spoke to the delightful Nana Roughead, grandmother of Jarryd and Jordan, and loved hearing how she is planning to spend the big day.  

Podcast #28: Natasha Stott-Despoja

Natasha Stott-Despoja AM was for many years the youngest woman ever to enter the Australian Federal Parliament and the longest-serving Democrat Senator in the party’s history. She served as a Senator for South Australia from 1995 until 2008, and was leader of the Australian Democrats from 2001 until 2002. She has an extraordinary resume. A graduate of the University of Adelaide, Ms Stott-Despoja was the President of the Students’ Association of the University of Adelaide and the state women’s officer for the National Union of Students in South Australia: one of many roles she has held during her career that focus on the rights of girls and women. She was appointed a Global Leader for Tomorrow by the World Economic Forum in 1999, and has been a member of numerous boards, including beyondblue, the Museum of Australian Democracy, the Advertising Standards Board and the Burnet Institute.

More recently, she was appointed as the founding Chairperson of Our Watch (the Foundation to Prevent Violence Against Women and their Children). In this capacity, she has worked tirelessly to: raise awareness of the incidence and prevalence of violence against women and children, to explore options for the prevention of violence against women and children, the importance of gender equality and respect, and the important links between gendered language and gendered violence. In 2013, she was named as Australia’s Ambassador for Women and Girls, where she continues this work at a global level.