Episode 4 of The Outer Sanctum is here! This week we catch up with Adelaide coach Bec Goddard, who reveals a surprising reason why her playing group are so cohesive. We also chat to St Kilda CEO Matt Finnis about his club's commitment to equality, diversity and inclusion.
This week we speak to broadcaster, Adelaide Crows devotee and author of the brand new book, Breaking the Mould and Bridget Barker, Manager of Diversity and Inclusion at North Melbourne and coach of the Western Jets Youth Girls team (and all round legend)...
On this week's episode we share our favourite moments from the opening round of the ALFW. We hear from some fans and we talk to Sal Rees, who was a pioneer for women in football. We chat in a car with Mish Cowan, coach of the Fremantle Dockers and all round superstar. #aflw #wearehere
Daisy Pearce is the captain of Melbourne's AFL Women's team and will write columns for Fairfax Media throughout 2017. Daisy Pearce is an Australian rules footballer who is the captain of the Melbourne Football Clubwomen's team in the Australian Football League (AFL) exhibition matches and Darebin Falcons in the Victorian Women's Football League (VWFL). In 2007, she was named in the VWFL All-Australian team. Daisy has been hailed a legend.
We speak to her about what the season will look like and who to watch out for.
Kate spoke to Bill Birnbauer was a senior reporter and editor at The Age, The Sunday Age and The Herald between 1975 and 2008. He left Fairfax in late 2008 and was appointed Senior Lecturer in journalism at Monash University in the same year. At Fairfax, he had several senior reporting roles and was The Age’s Chief of Staff, News Editor, Night Editor and Associate Editor. He is a member of the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists.
Our first season of this podcast involved the help of some wonderful people. We want to take this opportunity to thank:
Camilla for your great ear and sound editing
John, Damon and Jordan at EON Sports Radio for taking the Outer in (plus big thanks to Lee and the barista team!)
Bendigo Bank Clifton Hill/ Nth Fitzroy who stepped in with some financial assistance
Bridget Barker and the Huddle/ MUWFC team for hosting our Kick & Coffee and Sue Osborne for capturing the event brilliantly
All our incredible guests who made themselves available to unaccredited, second tier media with such generosity.
Above all, thank you to you, our listeners. We are six women who for decades have been looking for our place in football and finally just made one ourselves. It seems thousands of you were looking for the very same spot, so we will meet you back there again in February 2017.
We caught up with Melissa and Katie the day after their attendance at the Brownlow. We had a chat about attending football's big night as footballers and what that means to them and a new generation of girls. We also heard about what they will be up to in the off-season, and it isn't putting their feet up.
Ahead of the Grand Final we checked in with two special fans. Erin Riley, writer and sports commentator, filled us in on the mood in Sydney and the special preparations she is making for Grand Final day. We also spoke to the delightful Nana Roughead, grandmother of Jarryd and Jordan, and loved hearing how she is planning to spend the big day.
Natasha Stott-Despoja AM was for many years the youngest woman ever to enter the Australian Federal Parliament and the longest-serving Democrat Senator in the party’s history. She served as a Senator for South Australia from 1995 until 2008, and was leader of the Australian Democrats from 2001 until 2002. She has an extraordinary resume. A graduate of the University of Adelaide, Ms Stott-Despoja was the President of the Students’ Association of the University of Adelaide and the state women’s officer for the National Union of Students in South Australia: one of many roles she has held during her career that focus on the rights of girls and women. She was appointed a Global Leader for Tomorrow by the World Economic Forum in 1999, and has been a member of numerous boards, including beyondblue, the Museum of Australian Democracy, the Advertising Standards Board and the Burnet Institute.
More recently, she was appointed as the founding Chairperson of Our Watch (the Foundation to Prevent Violence Against Women and their Children). In this capacity, she has worked tirelessly to: raise awareness of the incidence and prevalence of violence against women and children, to explore options for the prevention of violence against women and children, the importance of gender equality and respect, and the important links between gendered language and gendered violence. In 2013, she was named as Australia’s Ambassador for Women and Girls, where she continues this work at a global level.
Tynan Winmar shares his story of being a gay, Indigenous boy in a country town, with a famous footballing father. He tells us about the day his dad Nicky took a stand against racism in 1993 with the now iconic raising of his jumper, what Tynan remembers and how it’s shaped him today; the responsibility he feels to make the most of the opportunity the AFL has given him as an Ambassador for the Pride Game, and what it’s like to have his dad stand beside him in this new role.
Image credit: Wayne Ludbey
This week we chat to Mel Forge – Football Operations and Compliance Coordinator at North Melbourne Football Club. In this capacity she looks after the football department logistics and travel, as well as taking care of the player contracting process and compliance. Mel is executive assistant to the senior coach and Team Manager on match day. Mel completed a Bachelor of Business (Sports Administration) in 2008 and began working as a volunteer with the Box Hill Hawks in the VFL. In 2010 she became Netball Operations Manager at Netball Victoria, while still working with the Box Hill Hawks in a development and performance consulting role working mainly with the coaches and leadership group.
Since 2010 she has been completing a Bachelor of Behavioral Science, an area of study that can be applied to high performance environments. Mel is a keen fan of podcasts, reading and is a fan of the New England Patriots.
Luke Ablett is a former AFL player who played 133 games with the Sydney Swans including the drought-breaking 2005 Premiership. But despite a stellar career and a famous football surname, footy was never going to be everything for him: the bigger goals are off the field.
Since retiring from the game, Luke has completed a Bachelor of Arts at RMIT. He has spent a year volunteering in Vanuatu, working with young men in an attempt to tackle that country’s extraordinarily high rates of gendered violence.
Luke is passionate about promoting gender equity and preventing men’s violence, and has extensive experience delivering education and capacity building programs on these topics to a range of different groups.
Prue is a highly regarded gender diversity consultant, facilitator and coach with over 15 years' experience in compliance, senior business leadership and strategy, specifically in the disciplines of diversity compliance, gender equity, reputation and risk, and discrimination.
Prue's particular passion and expertise is challenging gendered expectations to which society reverts around pregnancy. As CEO of Grace Papers, she has turned this passion into a business that supports and empowers women to manage pregnancy and career breaks as events in - not the end of - their career.
As a member of the AFLPA Womens's League advisory board, Prue is working to ensure the successful integration of the new competition from the player's perspective.
Wayne started his career as a photographer with Melbourne's The Age in 1984, and by 1987 had moved to the sports section. His renowned snap of John Northey berating Wayne's soon to be brother-in law Jim Stynes after the 1987 preliminary final helped him make his mark early on.
In 1993 he moved to the Herald Sun, the same year the he took the now iconic image of Nicky Winmar lifting his jumper to point to his black skin. His photograph and the story behind it is immortalized in the book Black and Proud: The Story of an Iconic AFL Photo , which won the Multicultural NSW Award at the 2015 NSW Premier’s Literary Awards and the Australian Society for Sport History Book Award.
Some of his best images are collated here.
In 2015, Wayne was made a life member of the AFL Media Association as recognition of his contribution to the industry and the AFL.
Professor Barry Judd is a Professor of Indigenous Studies in the School of Global, Urban and Social Studies at RMIT University. He has written about the origins of Australian Rules football, Indigenous history and identity over many years.
Barry currently lives in the Northern Territory, where he is documenting the development of an “On Country” football competition in the Western Desert region of Central Australia. This competition, developed as an initiative of community Elders, aims to strengthen Indigenous culture and identity, kinship ties and connections to Country. Over the next year, Barry will document the development of this “breakaway” competition and its implications for the Papunya community.
Barry is a passionate Hawthorn fan.
Sam Mostyn is Chair of Citibank Australia's retail bank, Non-executive Director of Virgin Australia Holdings Limited, Transurban Group and Cover-More Group Limited.
She is President of the Australian Council for International Development. She is also a Director of Australian Volunteers International, Australia Council for the Arts, Carriageworks, St James Ethics Centre Foundation, the NSW Climate Change Council and ClimateWorks Australia.
Sam is currently Deputy Chair of the Diversity Council Australia, and is Chair of AC for the Crawford School of Public Policy, ANU. She is also a retired Commissioner of the Australian Football League.
Leigh Russell GAICD - Organisational Development Specialist, Board Director, Performance Coach & public speaker / facilitator with qualifications in the arts, teaching, counselling, career counselling and business.
She is an accomplished leader, having developed a successful career building growing and leading across challenging high performance environments, with significant understanding of sport at all levels – athletes, coaches, administrators, members and volunteers through working with different AFL teams, the AFLPA, the Melbourne Vixens and a number of national & state sporting organisations.
Earning a reputation as a leading administrator for the work she has undertaken in a variety of roles - welfare, people & culture, learning & development, strategy development, and leadership & governance, Leigh’s successful track record points to a solid understanding of the power in building effective strategy aligned with the need to develop and nurture people, who will in turn create success.
Leigh was the first woman to hold a senior executive position within an AFL Club (working across football & administration) and the youngest CEO appointed in Netball Victoria’s history.
Currently, Leigh runs Inspired Heads, a management consultancy & coaching practice that specialises in working with sport & corporate organisations around leadership, high performance, governance, building positive cultures and executive coaching. With business partner Bianca Chatifeld, she founded ‘The Ignition Project’ – an online leadership and personal development program for women. She also serves as Chair of Tennis Victoria’s Nominations Committee, Chair of Cricket Australia’s Player Welfare Committee, is a former Director of the State Sport Centres Trust and AFL SportsReady, and former Chair of Women’s Health West. In 2015, Leigh facilitated the Victorian Government’s Women in Sport & Active Recreation Taskforce. She is also the ‘Mind Coach’ on Foxtel’s The Recruit.
Leigh is a professional member of the Australian Institute of Company Directors & the Australian Human Resources Institute. Leigh is also a Myers Briggs Practitioner and an Extended DISC® Accredited Consultant and Trainer.
Debbie Lee is a five-time Helen Lambert VWFL best and fairest winner. She is also a five-time All Australian, five-time state captain and 15-time state representative. Debbie was just the third female player to reach 300 games, a feat made more remarkable by the shorter duration of the VWFL season.
She has been a coach and a part of the AFL’s womens’ advisory board. Having set up football clubs at grass roots level she is now doing it at a national level as the Women's Football Operations Manager at the Melbourne Football Club, where she continues to champion the game.
Dr Sean Gorman has studied and worked in the Indigenous Studies field for 23 years. In that time he has lectured and researched in the Indigenous studies programs at Murdoch University, Edith Cowan University and the University of Melbourne. He currently holds a senior fellowship at Curtin University.
Gorman’s work draws on social justice, social history, sports history, and local history and gives insight and voice to contemporary Indigenous society and people. He is the lead CI on the recently completed ARC linkage grant entitled: Assessing the Australian Football League’s Racial and Religious Vilification Laws to Promote Community Harmony, Multiculturalism and Reconciliation.
His book Brotherboys: The story of Jim and Phillip Krakouer was adapted for a play and had a national tour in 2011. Along with David Whish-Wilson he has commissioned to write a book entitled Derby about the rivalry between the Dockers and the Eagles. This is due for release in early 2017.
Fine out more: http://seangorman.com.au
Dr Tony Birch is a renowned academic, author, poet and educator. He is the inaugural recipient of The Bruce McGuinness Indigenous Research Fellowship at Victoria University, named for one of Victoria’s most respected Aboriginal elders and a long-time activist in the struggle for Aboriginal justice.
Alongside his academic work, Tony is a highly regarded novelist. He has authored many books and short stories, including Shadowboxing, Blood (shortlisted for the 2012 Miles Franklin Award) The Promise (shortlisted for the 2014 Victorian Premier’s Literary Award) and Ghost River (2015) , long listed for the 2016 Miles Franklin Award. In 2016 he released Broken Teeth, a book of poetry.
Tony grew up and lived much of his life in Fitzroy where his beloved footy club formed part of his identity. He currently resides in Carlton with his family and a snoring dog.
Any dictatorship worth its violent salt executes the poets first. It is the way it should be, as a great poem cuts through the crap and goes for the heart and heat like a double-barrelled shotgun.
American-born Peggy O'Neal is a lawyer who has lived in Australia for the past 24 years. A lover of sports, Peggy played gridiron in her youth and was a handy quarterback. After moving to Australia she soon developed a love for the athleticism and skill of Aussie Rules. After only four years in the country, Peggy became a member of the Richmond Football Club and has supported the club with her whole heart ever since.
Peggy has served on the Richmond board since 2005, and became the first ever female president of an AFL club when elected to the top job in 2013. In 2015, Peggy became a Life Member of the Richmond Football Club.
Living within view of the Punt Road Oval, Peggy is a well-known and respected part of the Richmond community. Her passion for both on and off field success has Richmond in great shape financially and in a position to support impressive community projects, especially in the area of indigenous education.
Caroline Wilson is a multiple Walkley Award winning Australian sports journalist. She is best known as the chief football writer for Melbourne's The Age newspaper, and as a panelist on Nine Network's Footy Classified. In 2010 the Australian Sports Commission awarded her a lifetime achievement award for her contribution to sports journalism, one of many accolades she has received over her career.
Shelley Ware is a co-host of the Marngrook Footy Show on NITV, Logie nominated again this year as Best Sports Program. A Yankanjatjara and Wirangu woman, Shelley grew up on the west coast of South Australia near Ceduna then moved to Adelaide. Now Melbourne-based, Shelley is a primary school teacher, a broadcaster and a proud Carlton supporter.
Kate Jenkins is the recently appointed Sex Discrimination Commissioner at the Australian Human Rights Commission and a board member of the Carlton Football Club. Previously Kate held the role of Commissioner at the Victorian Equal Opportunity and Human Rights Commission.