Cliché. Period.

Often change happens at grassroots level. This week we talk about pride, community and inclusion. We address the Footy Show's transphobic comments but celebrate the festival of inclusion and football that was the Hamilton Pride Game. Jason Evans and Kate Boston Smith join us to talk about the Reclink Community Cup.

Thanks to the all the people who shared their thoughts and stories with us in Hamilton: Annie Nolan, Charles Beaton, Lachlan Beaton, Bridget Barker, Andrew Donald, Kevin Quinn, Libby Birch, Meg McDonald, Elise O'Dea, Ro Allen.

We were so lucky to have Julie on the podcast this week, telling us about the importance of the Pride Game to her family and to a country town. Julie is pictured here with her gorgeous friends Wendy and Terrielyn who we met in the outer - proving once again that the outer can be a pretty special place to be.

#VFLW #AFL #AFLW #loveislove #marriageequality

Strap Yourselves In

"Strap Yourselves In"

It's finally happened - we've talked stats and facts. Ok, our guests may have helped! This week with chat with Josh Kay who does the stats for Channel 7's footy coverage. We also caught up with Emma Quayle who is an expert in the draft and recently left journalism for a recruiting gig at Greater Western Sydney Giants. 

Episode available now via the ABC Radio App or your favourite podcast platform.

#AFL #AFLW #OuterSanctum #Podcast #GWS #NeverSurrender

A Season in Two Halves

A Season of Two Halves

This week we address the mid-season hump in the "Season of Two Halves", jumper punching and rule of the week. We share a listener’s thoughts on family and footy, and we talk with Tracey Gaudry, Hawthorn’s new CEO, and the AFL’s first woman to take on this role.

Episode available now via the ABC Radio App or your favourite podcast platform.

#OuterSanctum #Podcast #AFLW #AFLM #AFL #StrongAsOne

Pride in the Country

This week we raise the rainbow flag in regional Victoria. We talk about the upcoming VFL Women's game in Hamilton with one of the organisers @uncannyannieblog and the president of Darebin @leashl whose @darebinfalcons will take on @muwfcofficial in this Pride Game on June 17. We catch up with to Sarah Gehrig and Eliza Moore from Wangaratta (GO Alpine Lions!).


#outersanctum #pride #vflw


A new perspective on Dreamtime Round through stories of grass roots and on-country projects around footy. We speak with Charlee-Sue Frail, AFL NSW/ACT’s Indigenous Programs Manager. We also meet Andy Mullins and Russell "Rusty" Smith' and hear how their relationship has inspired a magical experience for indigenous kids from Port Augusta.

When Podcasts Write Themselves

"When Podcasts Write Themselves"

There was controversy everywhere we looked this week: on the field, on banners and on the football shows. We discuss it all with Haylea Cooney, who plays for Caroline Springs and is married to a Brownlow medalist, and Mary Konstantopoulos from the NRL podcast Ladies Who League.

Available via the ABC Radio App and your favourite podcast platform.…/8539152

#OuterSanctum #LadiesWhoLeague #AFL #AFLW #AFLM

One Jumper, Six Headholes: Felice Arena and Miffy Farquarson

One Jumper, Six Headholes This week at the Outer Sanctum it’s all things literary as we discuss footy books old and new - the good, the bad, and the ugly. We ask children’s book expert Miffy Farquarson about how they might engage reluctant readers, and we meet author of the bestselling Specky Magee series, Felice Arena. All in a week that saw the first female CEO appointed to an AFL Club, the launch of a new women’s team, and the prelude to Round 1 of the VFLW. Also, there’s a really big jumper with our names on it. And six headholes.

Jax Jacki Brown and Phil Cleary

This week we discuss good omens and bad omens, as well as the end of the world as we know it. 

We unpack the commentary around language and responsibility in the wake of incidents of racial and ableist abuse with disability activist Jax Jacki Brown, and speak with Phil Cleary about his decades-long campaign to end violence against women.

We debate the merits of Wayne Carey being elevated to Legend status in the AFL Hall of Fame and round off with a tribute to the greatest of Danihers, Edna, care of the brilliant Libbi Gorr.

Third Man Up...

This week on the Outer Sanctum we discuss celebration and deflation, whipping boys and tears.

We look at emotion in sport, Good Friday’s good footy, chat with former Hawk, Eagle and Swan - Matt Spangher - about changing clubs and life after football, and close with a tribute to the glorious Eddie Betts.

Don't Be An A**hole

This week we look at winners and losers, banners and schadenfreude. We discuss racism and Showdowns, and seek advice from academic, Dr Sean Gorman on where to from here. Finally we re-visit Colin Kapaernick's decision to 'take the knee', and the fallout post season. 

Available via the ABC Radio App and your favourite podcast platform 

#podcast #AFLM #AFLW #AFL #OuterSanctum

Alicia Koschitzke, Joseph La Posta and more...

This week, a new segment… “Mea Culpa Corner” starring Lucy and Kate.  Head injuries and concussion dominate the discussion.  Alicia Koschitzke, wife of former Saint, Justin, on the role of partners and family. Plus, Dermott Brereton’s troubling comments about the AFLW and the merits of a twilight grand final.  All this and Joseph La Posta from the upcoming National Diversity Championship.

Dennis Armfield, the AFLW wrap up & more footy!

We're thrilled to be the ABC!

This week we speak to Dennis Armfield. Drafted to the Carlton football club in 2007, Dennis Armfield was a latecomer to the AFL. Commencing his playing career in 2008, at the age of 21, he has now played 140 games for Carlton. In 2017 he was appointed to the club's leadership group. Off the field, Dennis is involved in a number of social causes. He is a passionate advocate for victims of family violence, and involved in Carlton's Respect campaign. He is also an ambassador for Odyssey House - a drug and alcohol rehabilitation facility in Melbourne. For his work with Odyssey House, he was awarded the Jim Stynes Community Leadership Award in 2015. Dennis also studies podiatry at LaTrobe University, and in 2017 was a skills coach for Carlton's inaugural AFL women's team.

We also talk about the AFLW and the incredible Grand Final. 

Libby Birch, Kirby Bentley, Bec Goddard, Josh Vanderloo & AFLW final!

This week on The Outer Sanctum we celebrate the AFLW with players Libby Birch and Kirby Bentley. We review the season with Josh Vanderloo from the AFL. While Adelaide coach Bec Goddard gives us some rare and hilarious insights and joins the girls for coaches karaoke. And we say a huge thank you to The Age for having us for AFLW!

Lauren Ariel and Tanya Hosch

This week we speak with Carlton Captain Lauren Arnell as well as Tanya Hosch the general manager of inclusion and social policy at the AFL. We also discuss crime and punishment regarding club sanctions and we announce our competition winners.

Ro Allen, Ruby Demons and Mardi Gras...

This week we chat inclusion and diversity with Victoria's Commissioner for Gender and Sexuality, Ro Allen.  We also speak to the LGBTQI friendly supporter group, the Ruby Demons, and bring you stories from the AFLW float at the Sydney Mardi Gras.  

Bec Goddard and Matt Finnis

Episode 4 of The Outer Sanctum is here! This week we catch up with Adelaide coach Bec Goddard, who reveals a surprising reason why her playing group are so cohesive. We also chat to St Kilda CEO Matt Finnis about his club's commitment to equality, diversity and inclusion.

Angela Pippos and Bridget Barker

This week we speak to broadcaster, Adelaide Crows devotee and author of the brand new book, Breaking the Mould and Bridget Barker, Manager of Diversity and Inclusion at North Melbourne and coach of the Western Jets Youth Girls team (and all round legend)...