The Reckoning

Another wild weekend of AFLM, female athletes pushing back on expectations and feminist French philosopher Grant Birchall returns to football. Guests: Sex Discrimination Commissioner Kate Jenkins and Hannah Mouncey reflect on new guidelines for the inclusion of trans athletes in sport.

Show notes:

Guidelines for the inclusion of transgender and gender diverse people in sport (2019) - published on the Australian Human Rights Commission website

Keiran Pender's article on the Telegraph website - Ending period 'taboo' gave USA marginal gain at World Cup

This AFL Life - Julia Chiera's podcast

Kate, Hannah, Julia, Nicole and Alicia

Kate, Hannah, Julia, Nicole and Alicia

The revolution WILL be televised

IN: AFLW superstars Sabrina Frederick and Melissa Hickey. Plus: The unveiling of Nicky Winmar's statue and we take a trip to London to meet the Swanettes.

Show notes:

The School of Greatness podcast episode titled: Sex and Love, Lust and Infidelity with Wednesday Martin.
Rick Broadbent's article in The Times: Big Plans are on hold as Cori Gauff prepares for her toughest test at Wimbledon.
Isabella Higgins' article for ABC: As a proud Torres Strait Islander I know a black and white future is possible.
Emma Race's reflection on her Our Watch fellowship has been published by The Walkley Magazine: Our watch has just begun.


Taking Up Space

Celebrating footy upsets, caretaker coaches and diverse athletes who are taking up space. Adele Pavlidis from Griffith University shares her research and anonymous insights into the experiences of AFLW players.

Show notes:

Sue Bird's Players Tribune article: So the President F*cking Hates My Girlfriend
Gwendolyn Oxenham ESPN article: Megan Rapinoe's greatest heartbreak, and hope
Irish Times article: #JusticeForHarper Uproar after mascot sent off during Irish football match
Atlanta: television series created by Donald Glover. (Article on why it won’t air in 2019).

Tess, Kate, Nicole and Emma

Tess, Kate, Nicole and Emma


Let's talk legacies: historic female barrackers, sporting heroes making their own history and a coach on a mission to change footy in NSW. Guests: Alicia Eva from the GWS Giants, Chyloe Kurdas and Matthew Klugman from Victoria University.

Show notes:

Ruby Hamad's Meanjin article: Folau's Fall Is A Story Of Whiteness
Matthew Klugman's Conversation article: Loud, obnoxious and at times racist: the sordid history of AFL barracking
Jake Niall's article in The Age: Stephenson's $36 bets can lead the AFL to give up millions
Tom Morris' Fox Sports article: AFL 2019: Widespread discontent among score review operators over AFL's handling of system and criticism


Power of Six

Snowflakes, pinching, mowers and vests. Plus: Dr Tiarna Ernst talks Gold Coast Suns and Paul Groves and from the archives, Professor Barry Judd explains how different approaches to history impact the Australian Rules origin story.

Show notes:

Dark Emu by Bruce Pascoe
The High Low podcast on silent Ubers.
Des Headland's article on the AFL website: Call it 'Kiya': Stack/Betts hug explained, why whitefellas miss the point
David Mark's article on the ABC website: AFL has changed its stance on the origins of the sport and historians are baffled
BBC article: ITV bans all-male comedy writing teams
CBC article: Politics of citation: is the peer review process biased against indigenous academics?

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Reclink Community Cup info here.


The Letter R

Resistance, reconciliation, representation and runners. Special guest: Geoff Davis from the Central Kimberley Football League.

Show notes:

Tonys: What Ali Stroker's Historic Win Means for Wheelchair Users Like Me by Judy Heumann in Hollywood Reporter

Back Pass: episode of the 30 for 30 podcast

Abby Wambach on The Daily Show with Trevor Noah

Resistance, reconciliation, representation and runners. Our special guest is Geoff Davis from the Central Kimberley Football League (CKFL).

This beautiful photo, taken by Danella Bevis, is of Mowanjum Ladyhawks captain Cecilia Umbagai and vice-captain Jerisha Wungundin after a training session at the Mowanjum oval. Just two of the women playing in the CKFL.

"The Letter R" is available now via the ABC Listen App or your favourite podcast platform.


Outside Noise

Footy diplomacy, changes in the AFLM and AFLW coaching ranks, Adam Goodes and Hall of Fame highlights. Special guests: Ian Darling, the maker of the Final Quarter and Michelle Cowan from the West Coast Eagles. Ian Darling’s documentary on Adam Goodes is called ‘The Final Quarter’.


Walk Together

It's the Sir Doug Nicholls Round of the 2019 AFL season. Leanne Brooke from The Long Walk reflects on the 15th anniversary of Michael Long's walk for change and Essendon's cultural leadership. Plus: The designers of the Richmond and Carlton indigenous jumpers, Daniel Rioli and Shelley Ware, explain the stories behind their designs.

Show notes:

The Long Walk -

See all AFL indigenous jumper designs here:



The changing face of football media and a growing emphasis on the importance of language. St Kilda legend Nathan Burke on women's footy, helmets and hall of fame criteria. Plus: Phil Cleary takes his teachings to the country.

Show notes:

Nathan Dyer's portraits of AFL players to celebrate Africa Day

Alysia Montaño's opinion piece and video Nike Told Me to Dream Crazy, Until I Wanted a Baby (NY Times)

#MeToo: Stories from the Australian movement edited by Natalie Kon-yu, Christie Nieman, Maggie Scott & Miriam Sved


Body of Evidence

The Caster Semenya ruling and why it matters, Adam Selwood on the energy of women’s football and which West Coast father-daughters we might see playing AFLW and Patty Kinnersly from Our Watch talks about the power of footy and why doing nothing does harm.

Show notes:

Lucy: Move in May event from Stand Up Events.

Emma: Felicity Harley's article in Whimn - Dear Politicians: Stay the Hell Out of My Uterus & Rebel Wilson takes on Hollywood ratings after The Hustle was originally rated R.

Kate: Andy Bull's article in The Guardian - Cas tried to provide a clear verdict on Caster Semenya but left a tangled mess.

Nic: Victorian Women's Trust book in the works titled About Bloody Time: The Menstrual Revolution

Let's Hear it For the Good Guys

Meet Amna Karra Hassan, an absolute football powerhouse from Sydney's west who is changing the football landscape and find out what life is like for one of the AFL mascots.

Show notes:

Lucy: An episode of Against The Rules titled Ref, you suck! and photographer Hannah Rex (@ontheballmedia on Instagram)

Emma: Beyonce's Netflix special Homecoming, Still Processing podcast episode.

We Talk Beychella and From The Outer by Nicole Hayes and Alicia Sometimes

Nic: Meet Me At The Intersection by Rebecca Lim and Ambelin Kwaymullina

Alicia: Country Joe and the Fish song Good Guys/Bad Guys Cheer

Play Like A Person

Anna Scullie tells us about her life with 300 game legend Eddie Betts. The Red Wedding of trade period heats up in the AFLW and why you should just 'play like a person'.

The DeLorean Episode

Richmond President Peggy O'Neal talks about Katie Brennan, Dustin Martin and Peggy the cat. Some of football's other most influential women talk about the future. Plus: Mr P meets Mr T.

Love Letters

Love letters to AFLW, language matters and behind the scenes of the W Awards. Plus: Exclusive interviews from the AFLPA MVP Awards with Bri Davey, Maddy Prespakis, Courtney Cramey and Courtney Gum.

With Angela Pippos and Shelley Ware at the AFLW Awards

With Angela Pippos and Shelley Ware at the AFLW Awards

Cecilia Soon

A look back at season three of the AFLW season. Melbourne co-captain Elise O'Dea talks about their year and explains a link to Amelia Earhart, Shelley Ware on racism in footy and her beloved Carlton going to a grand final and Cecilia McIntosh reflects on her incredible sporting career, trolls, her next move and tells us all about Nanna Spanner.


Pay the Price

It's the first ever AFLW preliminary final week but the news was dominated by discussion about a photo of Tayla Harris. Katie Brennan joins the panel to talk social media, conferences and the Bulldogs and Sabrina Frederick Traub responds to rumours about her playing future.

Do the Maths

GWS captain Amanda Farrugia on an emotional win for her club and equity in footy. Kangaroos coach Scott Gowans delves into his quotebook and reflects on their first season. Chyloe Kurdas does the maths on who can play finals in AFLW season three and pays tribute to Erin Phillips. Plus: Complaining or criticism?

Try The Cheeseburger

Bec Goddard on her coaching aspirations and favourite proverbs and Lord Mayor Sally Capp talks Collingwood, changing cultures and accepting failure. Plus: Hall of fame criteria and a look at AFLW round six.